Rand Paul Rachel Maddow Interview Analysis

July 10, 2011 by Guest Author  
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50 Responses to “Rand Paul Rachel Maddow Interview Analysis”

  1. TheL2hang on July 10th, 2011 7:26 am

    I used to be liberal. After watching this dumbass in the video, I am now a far-right conservative. Christ this Ben guy is fucking retarded.

  2. EdMan2012 on July 10th, 2011 8:15 am

    as always, these progressives don’t get it.

  3. AminCad on July 10th, 2011 8:38 am

    @CmdrTobs You obviously are reading the back and forth through ideologically biased eyes. Why can’t you just admit that you were being pedantic and that obviously in context of what a reasonable person would assume I was implying, my comment about having an absolute right to not be killed was referring to being killed while innocent? You tried to show how killing is sometimes OK and therefore my comment was wrong, but it turns out you were simply nitpicking on semantics and ignoring implication.

  4. CmdrTobs on July 10th, 2011 8:44 am

    @AminCad I read your back and forth with DarkAngel0125 and you ballsed up when you got too cocky and careless with your words. That’s ok, to err is to be human. The fact you couldn’t admit that and quickly move on tells me one important thing:

    You are a prideful motivated thinker.

    I could spend a Gigabyte of text elucidating all the holes, tears and bent screws in your argument but none of it would mean a damn.

    With that said, have a good morning/night wherever you are.

  5. AminCad on July 10th, 2011 9:06 am

    @CmdrTobs You’re making another invalid argument. My original comment about ‘absolute’ rights was a response to the other commenter claiming rights cannot be absolute, so it was directly relevant to the discussion. I was making a point that REAL rights have to be absolute and cannot conflict with each other, for any morality to be consistent and coherent. This means you can’t have a right to use patronize someone else’s restaurant if they don’t want you there, as that would violate their rights.

  6. CmdrTobs on July 10th, 2011 9:57 am

    @AminCad Nothing but a repeat….

    A quick admission that you erred was not out the question you know… A bit too much pride I sense.

    Crying fowl victim of fastidiousness ain’t washing either, as I pointed out earlier that whole cocky rhetorical ditty you made about rights WAS an attempt in of it’s self to derail someone else’s very substantive point.

    You do realise this is all written record right? Everyone who reads this can see you go more bankrupt with every reply.

  7. AminCad on July 10th, 2011 10:07 am

    @CmdrTobs Again, it is pedantic. A reasonable person would take it for granted that I was referring to cases of killing where there is no legitimate cause, and ONLY in this circumstance was I claiming that it is an absolute violation of someone’s rights. You’re just continuing on your pedantry, because you’re not interested in debating in good will.

  8. CmdrTobs on July 10th, 2011 10:16 am

    @AminCad
    Again, it’s not pedantic. You cockily restated it was “Absolute”. If you didn’t then maybe your ‘pedantic’ recourse would have a leg stand on. There can be no exceptions to an ‘Absolute’, it’s the very point of the word.

    “you’re not debating honesty or in good faith” How Ironic! That’s precisely what you were doing when you wrote that mess. You were attempting to to take DarkAngel0125 substantive point about restricting business’s right to discriminant to absurdum, so don’t cry now…

  9. CmdrTobs on July 10th, 2011 10:38 am

    @daagrimreefah

    Crazed caps-lock….check
    Punctuation choices that belong on the walls of an asylum…..check
    Wall of text with no structured points…..check
    Confusing pros peppered with insults paradoxically mixed with positive advice…. check
    A well Garnished ending with the mentally unstable’s favorite punctuation char: The ‘exclamation’…. check
    … After the exclamation there is a crazed trail of 11111111’s as the shift key slips….. not a check.

    Damn, 5/6 still ain’t bad.

  10. AminCad on July 10th, 2011 10:51 am

    @AminCad You predicted it because you could see you were nitpicking and being pedantic. Again, the absolute right I was referring to is the right to not be killed without LEGITIMATE cause. That you ignore this and convince yourself that I was referring to being killed in any conceivable circumstance shows you’re not debating honesty or in good faith. You’re just trying to score points.

  11. CmdrTobs on July 10th, 2011 11:04 am

    @AminCad “Nitpicking and deliberately pedantry on your part” – exactly the response I predicted. Learn what *absolute* right means. That trumps whatever someone may do including murder. My point to you was one about the correct meaning of words as much as one about civil society.

    So I reject your face saving by branding what I wrote ‘pedantic’.

    I tell you what though, you tell me a temperature below ABSOLUTE zero, then you win mmmkay?

  12. AminCad on July 10th, 2011 11:34 am

    @CmdrTobs “”So your right to not be killed” – I bet you have no problem with the death penalty? – ”

    Nitpicking and deliberately pedantry on your part. By ‘right not to be killed’, I’m obviously referring to being killed when one didn’t commit an act of violence before that.

    “Again,I doubt you have a problem the fact the land you live on is stolen.”

    The robbing was UNJUSTIFIED. The right of the person who had their land taken was absolutely violated. The problem is there’s no way to prove it

  13. CmdrTobs on July 10th, 2011 12:33 pm

    @TheFreezer872 “If a bank discriminates on race, the black guy can go elsewhere” – Not really.

    Give a man $100 dollars and say he can keep the balance if he finds someone who will except a fraction of the $100 with the clause that someone turns down the offer he’ll loose the $100.

    Logically anyone should accept ANY offer since it’s free money and thus the man should offer 1c. In reality offers tend to be around ~$50 and small offers are rejected.

    This is why what you say wouldn’t happen.

  14. CmdrTobs on July 10th, 2011 1:21 pm

    @RolandStGermain The only thing that is Disney land is expecting the moral Zeitgeist to have changed at an equal or enhanced pace nation wide without the mandates that affected business like woolworths.

  15. CmdrTobs on July 10th, 2011 1:52 pm

    ” No right is absolute? Yes actually. You’d probably say yes too once you’d dropped your highly paradoxic exceptions to absolutism.

    “So your right to not be killed” – I bet you have no problem with the death penalty? – So it’s NOT ABSOLUTE

    “robbed” – Again,I doubt you have a problem the fact the land you live on is stolen. In your American case probably an American Indian, who likely stole it from another American Indian… – So it’s NOT ABSOLUTE

  16. 14ONRiNOP14 on July 10th, 2011 2:48 pm

    @AminCad actually Rand Paul is a zionist supporter to and he acts here like he doesnt have balls. Dr David Duke speaks the truth.

  17. groam6666 on July 10th, 2011 3:42 pm

    Ben, your arguments make no sense and I’m starting to think you really don’t know enough about Libertarian philosophy to speak on that subject.

  18. thewag777 on July 10th, 2011 4:06 pm

    Don’t put words in his mouth! He said it isn’t the Government’s place to deal with that problem. He is in favor of community action against racism…just not the government.

  19. roflcopter2006 on July 10th, 2011 4:11 pm

    @JerezJulio Therefore a minimum wage might significantly harm business in one state, where the wage may not even be needed. If you ever needed proof that centralized government fails, look at Europe. The Euro is collapsing, primarily due to the fact that interest rates that may favour, say, Germany, can significantly harm portugals ability to escape recession. Of course, I wouldn’t expect you to have any logic in your argument, other than accuse Rand of being a nut.

  20. roflcopter2006 on July 10th, 2011 4:45 pm

    @JerezJulio He wants to eliminate public education? No, he wants to eliminate the department of Education. There is a direct link between the instantiation of the Department of Education and the decline of the United States in the international league tables for maths, science, and yes, even English. Rand Paul does not support a national minimal wage because guess what? Prices in Georgia might be significantly different than those in Washington or Maine..

  21. TheFreezer872 on July 10th, 2011 5:15 pm

    Yes this type of commentary is almost as bad as JerezJulio claiming “Not only Rand Paul is the biggest and Most dangerous racist in the country, he also wants to help terrorist to commit more 9/11 kind of Attacks”.

    Help us out here Darwin…

  22. RolandStGermain on July 10th, 2011 5:38 pm

    This is the problem with the majority of Left-Wing commentators. The depth of thought shown here is simply shallow. Because their own thinking is so shallow, they assume that someone with true depth of thought like Paul is just as shallow as they are shallow. So they try to translate his articulated positions to Lefty-land and fail to deal with his issues and what he is trying to defend. Which is true freedom by the way. Stop the groundless Disney style moralizing and think.

  23. TheFreezer872 on July 10th, 2011 5:44 pm

    @JerezJulio Denies slavery? I should’ve known you were a nut after the pneumonia conspiracy statement. I’m not going to monkey around with your dumbass if you’re this irrational. Luckily, Rand Paul can count on the majority of others with some intelligence and reasoning. Not even Dems claim the type of bullshit you do.

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    WATCH the VIDEO on You Tube titled…

    ” Zionist Racist Rachel Maddow and Rand Paul “

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    @JerezJulio How can you equate Rand Paul’s anti-racism belief to deniers of the Holocaust? Paul has Christian beliefs too. The Holocaust is a fact, it happened, so they can’t deny it. You can’t compare one’s beliefs to deniers of facts. Doesn’t make sense… again.

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